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Tamunosisi Gogo Jaja is a three-term member of the Rivers State House of Assembly and a governorship aspirant on the platform of the Peoples Democratic Party PDP.. In this interview with DANIEL ABIA, he says there is need for power shift in governance of the state. Jaja also calls on President Goodluck Jonathan and the national headquarters of PDP to intervene in the governorship tussle in the state. He also speaks on other issues in the politics of Rivers State and argues that Rivers is a one-city state and promises to build another one to complement Port Harcourt.
Excerpts:
Do you not think that the insistence on power rotation could lead to mediocrity?
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Tamunosisi Gogo Jaja
It would not. If you talk about experience, every one of the 16 aspirants in the stadium, who have bought their forms, are qualified to be governor of Rivers State. We are talking about those who are experienced in politics, those who are experienced in their private business, the academia, all of them are there.
That brings to fore the issue of 16 aspirants vying for one office; does it not trivialise your view?
It does not. That goes to demonstrate political awareness; the drive to develop the state. From indication of interest I expect that for whatever reason, if 16 persons, in fact there more than 20 aspirants who have picked forms to run for the position of governor of Rivers State. There is one indication that gives to us, first political awareness; second indication is that what was presented to the world is not the situation in Rivers State. The impression was that there is one “Mighty Igor” that can demolish anything in Rivers State but that is not the truth. The issue of the governor of Rivers State has always been especially on the platform of ruling party and in this case PDP is the ruling party. Nobody has ever been the governor of Rivers State without the agreement of certain blocs, to say look we agree to support you. I started supporting Dr Peter Odili right from the time of DPN. Nobody gave us a chance then, and yet certain elders of the state agreed to say look that Dr Odili will become the governor.
Let it be on record that, the most popular individual, popular politician in Rivers State today, is the present President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria Dr. Goodluck Ebele Jonathan. All the agitations, all the demands, all the issues we are raising, as soon as Mr. President calls Mr. ‘A’ or ‘B’, whether a politician or not and he decides to support you, everybody, the state will turn around to support you. He has a stake in Rivers State, this is not an issue of I am the President, this not an issue of I am the Commander-in-Chief, he has a stake in Rivers State. He lived here, he is a citizen of Rivers State whether anybody likes it or not, so he has a major stake in Rivers State. So I do not see him just as the leader of the party, if he does not make an input in any other part of the country, he has to make an input in the Rivers State.
But there is insinuation that the former Minister of State for Education, Barr. Nyesom Wike, is the only candidate that can beat Amaechi and APC in Rivers?
Well, I wouldn’t like to talk about my brother, the former Minister, Chief Nyesom Wike, for he is not the subject matter of this interview. My interest in this interview is how to develop Rivers State. I believe that I have the capacity to develop Rivers State; I have the capacity to drive the state to prosperity. But like I said earlier, the most popular politician in Rivers State is the President and the Commander-in-Chief of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.
If PDP should allow you to fly their flag in the Governorship race, how sure are you to make it?
You will agree with me that Tamunosisi Gogo Jaja is a household name in Rivers State, having been a leader of the Rivers State House of Assembly for eight years and having spent another four years as a Chief Whip and member of the Rivers State House of Assembly, in totality I am talking about 12 years. I believe have made a reasonable impact in the lives of people of Rivers State, I believe I have the experience; I believe also that, if you talk of qualification, I hold a doctorate degree in comparative politics from the University of Nigeria, Nsukka, so when one talks of experience, I have it. I have contacts, I have structures, and I have lived in Rivers State, and I can say to you in all sincerity that, if I have the ticket of PDP in the state, I will not just win the election, but will win convincingly, and I can assure you that, when elected as the governor of Rivers State, peace will reign in this state, there will be prosperity and there will be joy in the lives of our people.
Do have anything to say about the relationship between the executive and the judiciary on one side and also between the executive and the legislature?
Truly speaking I was a legislator for 12 years, I spent 12 years in the legislature, and I know that for a governor to have a smooth government, there must be a working relationship between the legislature and executive and having had that experience, I can assure you that I will promote a good relationship between the legislative and executive arms, and more so as one who has been in the legislature for 12 years and now becoming the governor of Rivers State, I have a clear understanding of the function of the judiciary. It is unfortunate that our judiciary is under lock and key. I will say that the clear message is that all arms of government should be allowed to be independent and be allowed to perform their functions without interference either from the executive or the judiciary, and there should be a smooth government, the problem as always been the chief executive wanting to intervene in or interfer the legislature or the judiciary.
How do you see the Governor’s persistence attacks on the President?
It is not worth it. I was told that the governor convened a meeting and a particular local council chairman walked into the meeting late, while the governor had been seated, and the governor walked him out and the governor wasn’t happy about it. The scripture says,” Do unto others what you want others to do unto you”. So if a council chairman accuses Governor Amaechi, I am sure he would not be happy about it, what Amaechi is doing to the President is condemnable. It is not worth it, I think he is going personal, and I thank God for the maturity of the person of President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan. If it were during the tenure of one of our past President, Amaechi would have been an ex-governor by now. President Jonathan is tolerant, peaceful, calm, but very calculative. I think that the interest of the President is to leave an enduring legacy in this country. The time Dr. Goodluck Ebele Jonathan leaves as the President of the country, I believe his good works will speak for generations.
What is your comment on the defection of the Speaker of House of Representatives, Aminu Tambuwal, to APC?
The truth of the matter is that he has the right to defect to any party of his choice, but the truth of the matter is that, as soon as he defects, he should be honourable enough to do the needful. I have a clear knowledge of the rules of every House, and for you to aspire to be the Speaker of a particular chamber, council, House of Assembly or House of Representatives, one of the conditions the person must fulfill is that, he must be the member of the majority party in that House. That was what qualified Tambuwal, whether the party supported him or not, that was immaterial. The first issue that qualified him to aspire for Speakership was that he was a member of the majority party in the House of Representatives, and having defected to APC, he should be honorable enough to tender his resignation letter as a Speaker of the House. So I must say that, much as he has the right to defect to APC, it is wrong for him to continue to hold onto the position of Speaker of the House. That exposes the quest for power by Africans. Tambuwal has distinguished himself, but should be honorable enough to resign as the Speaker, because he is no more a member of the majority party.
How do you see the chances of the President in the forthcoming Presidential election and PDP as a party?
I can assure you, and I have been praying about it, his works, his projects, his policies, will attest to the fact that, he has been a good President. In one of the interviews I granted a journalist in Abuja, I told him and I can still say it, “I am a specialist in comparative politics, and I have undertaken a study of the administrations of all the past Presidents of this country since independence, I can say to you without fear or favour that President Jonathan is the best President that Nigeria has ever produced so far, therefore I am optimistic that he will win”.
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